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More about the Tueller drill.

In some of the on going discussion and commentary over at Joe’s blog I found a few more things I would like to address.

The Tueller drill is not obsolete, it is just that generally the drill is not set up to reflect reality. I would also say that many of the recomended theories and techniques aren’t very effective in practice.

Basically there is a target at 21 feet and an ‘attacker’ at 21 feet (perpendicular to the defender/target axis). On the buzzer the defender draws an shoot the target, while the attacker runs to tag the defender. The only thing special about 21 feet is that it takes the average defender about 1.5 seconds to get a shot on target from the holster and that the average person can move about 14 feet per second from a standing start.

In a real world encounter the attacker with the knife initiates the motion and the defender has to percieve and react.

One of the other issues with the basic drill is that an advancing target becomes easier to hit as it gets closer, and leaving the target at 21 feet doesn’t simulate this behavior.

So the Tueller drill models simultaneous, mutually assured, destruction. The defender gets stabbed and the attacker gets shot. It happens at roughly the same time and it is an open debate as to who will be incapciated first (my money is on the guy with the knife slicing up the guy with the gun.) This is not a “win,” this is a “draw.” In order for the defender to prevail he needs more than 21 feet of distance between him and the attacker, or he needs to do something different.

In a real world encounter the attacker with the knife initiates the motion and the defender has to percieve and react. This is an advantage for the attacker with the knife, so the defender needs more than 21′ to even achieve a tie, let alone a win.

Starting with a hand on the gun, or the gun at the ready position is an advantage to the defender, and he needs much less than 21 feet to shoot simltaneously as he is getting stabbed. Similarly, allowing the defender various forms of movement also changes the amount of distance required.

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The J-Hook.

To aid in the explanation of the “J Hook” that I was talking about here, I cranked out this quick illustration. The red guy is the attacker, the blue guy is the defender. The darker colored ones are the initial starting positions and the light colored ones are the finishing positions.

From the illustration you can see that the defender is backing up on a path parallel to the path that the bad guy is charging down. While the defender is backing up, he is doing so across terrain that he has already seen. We have been doing this with Simunitions for years, and when executed correctly it works at much shorter distances than 21 feet, and the defender can easily get multiple shots on the attacker.

There have been some questions about Rule 4 issues. In the real world there aren’t very many “Safe” backstops. There are some that are safer than others. Rule 4 doesn’t require a safe backstop, it requires that you be aware of your target and aware of what is behind and beyond your target. It is up to the individual to decide if they are willing to accept responsibility for where the bullets end up.

As Jeff Mau stated:

Rule number 4 is simply to know your target, what is beyond it and being willing to accept the consequences of what you shoot. It most certainly does not mean you can only point your gun at a berm or something else that will stop a bullet. If given the distance, I will likely not immediately shoot the crazy guy making threats with a knife standing in front of a school bus with little kids inside. If possible, I will maneuver to avoid the possibility of hitting an innocent. However, if that same crazy guy has a bomb strapped to his chest, then I have no issue taking the shot and possibly jeopardizing the kids.

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An IDPA Tueller drill video.

This tuller drill video has been makeing the rounds on the gun blogs today, I first saw it at Sharp As Marble:

This looks like it is intended to be basically a Tueller drill, and it does illustrate a major shortcoming in the original incarnation of the drill, namely that the target is not at 7 yards when you are actually shooting at it. The shooter here spends as much time on his draw stroke as he does shooting. I believe that his first shot is at about roughly 5 yards and all subsequent shots are closer still. Some of the comments in the thread about moving backward or laterally will give you a little more time, but as it has played in force on force simulations the best method for getting more time to engage is to move in sort of a “J” and begin to circle.

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